This video is fake. It's part of Deep Reckonings — a series of explicitly-marked deepfake videos that imagine morally courageous versions of Alex Jones, Mark Zuckerberg, and other public figures. Here, an imaginary Jones appears on the Joe Rogan Experience, grappling with his spread of hateful lies.

The next step for Deep Reckonings is to make it real. Which could start with asking Joe Rogan to invite Alex Jones to have this conversation in their own words. Tweet: Hey @joerogan, make it real with @stephlepp: www.deepreckonings.com/jones #deepreckonings

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​Written, directed, and produced by 
Stephanie Lepp
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Voice of Alex Jones
Micha Berman
Voice of Joe Rogan
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Jenn Beard, Brett Gaylor, Paul Johnson, Kevin Zawacki, and Ryan Nakade

TRANSCRIPT

Jones: I already said I believe Sandy Hook happened! I already said Sandy Hook happened! Okay, Joe….ya, you're right….I'm not really doing what I originally set out to do.

You know I got into all of this because of real conspiracies. I wanted to expose lies and seek the truth and fight tyranny! That's why I investigated Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations and….but then it turned into Sandy Hook being a hoax and Pizzagate and everything — everything became a conspiracy!

And people started believing me and…sending me evidence, and InfoWars got huge, and it's like…I said I was David fighting Goliath, but I just became Goliath.

I used to say our fans harassing Sandy Hook families were ruining InfoWars. Ruining InfoWars?! What about ruining the Sandy Hook families' lives?! A Sandy Hook father committed suicide for God’s sake! And I used to say being kicked off of Facebook and YouTube was proof of the conspiracy — they’re trying to take me down because everything I’m saying is dead accurate! Because I make people question everything! Bullshit! If I make people question everything, then why is everything I say 100% predictable?! 

It's not about believing that everything is fake, or everything is real, or even somewhere in between. It's about believing what’s actually true, but not stopping there. We can't just "report the facts" like the lamestream media — all journalism should report the facts — it's about: whose facts? told how? for what purpose? And I actually do want to report facts about the powerful, straight to the people, for the purpose of protecting our liberty. There is a child sex abuse problem on our hands, folks! But it's not Hillary Clinton and the deep state — it's the Catholic Church!

Now, I say I’m happy but….I'm tired. I'm tired of child sex rings, and crisis actors, and coronavirus-curing toothpaste. I have this kinda psychosis where everything is a battle between good and evil out of some fucked up Marvel Universe! I need help. And if you think I’m compromised because I’m saying that, well then you need help too.

I want to pursue my original mission of seeking the truth and fighting tyranny, but I'm stuck between an audience that will literally kill me if I reneg on all this stuff, and the lamestream media that won't let me change. I want to change, but I don't know how.

So what do I do with this video?

Rogan: What do you mean? 

Jones: Well it's fake….but it's true. 

Rogan: What if you just pretend this video is real?

Jones: That's crazy. 

Rogan: You think that’s crazy?! Well, what if you do the real version of this video, right here, on my show?
 
Jones: Hmmmm.....

Rogan: Don't worry man, we're gonna get you there.